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txbkr
10-03-07, 01:42 PM
Well, taking money, reliability and fun factor in consideration, which one would ya'll pick?...and while you're at it, where in Phoenix is a good place to have it done. Many thx...Txbkr (new guy).

03cobrazzz
10-03-07, 02:17 PM
Well, taking money, reliability and fun factor in consideration, which one would ya'll pick?...and while you're at it, where in Phoenix is a good place to have it done. Many thx...Txbkr (new guy).stop by PSR 602-269-8955 1434 n 26th ave.talk to Dan or Bill verry good work for a fair price.

wickedcobra
10-03-07, 03:15 PM
stop by PSR 602-269-8955 1434 n 26th ave.talk to Dan or Bill verry good work for a fair price.


+1 and I would go with the SC for the fun factor.:bouncy:

txbkr
10-03-07, 05:51 PM
It's looking like a Whipple as soon as next week.

wickedcobra
10-03-07, 06:10 PM
Whata lucky dog..................I want one of those.

6Jeff6
10-03-07, 06:29 PM
That was fast!!

Congrats


Jeff

Indy
10-03-07, 07:23 PM
Get the Whipple and you wont be disappointed!:bounce:

txbkr
10-03-07, 10:48 PM
BTW, if ya'll have not figured it out yet, I don't know that much about cars. The basics, yes, but that is it. So, is there anything that I need to do to the tranny in order for it to handle the power and not crap out on me on the first run? The same goes for others components.

thx....txbkr

BurnTire
10-03-07, 11:01 PM
Get the Whipple and you wont be disappointed!:bounce:

I second that motion:Bucktooth:

4Jenna
10-03-07, 11:14 PM
:yes:

BurnTire
10-03-07, 11:15 PM
:yes:

I know deep down you want a belt!:laughing:

AZSonicSnake
10-03-07, 11:16 PM
stop by PSR 602-269-8955 1434 n 26th ave.talk to Dan or Bill verry good work for a fair price.

totally agree with andy on this one. best place in town for an awesome install and a kick ass tune. :twothumbsup:

4Jenna
10-03-07, 11:47 PM
I know deep down you want a belt!:laughing:

My pants arent falling down..what other use would one need a belt for?:hi:

nolacobra
10-04-07, 12:14 AM
TURBO TURBO TURBO !!!! do a single kit and build your bottem end and youll smoke a sc car .... hpperformance.com thats whos buildin mine !:laughing1:

4Jenna
10-04-07, 12:27 AM
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choooo chooo choooo



:judge::+1::perfect10:

Nory@DRI
10-04-07, 07:55 AM
Well, taking money, reliability and fun factor in consideration, which one would ya'll pick?...and while you're at it, where in Phoenix is a good place to have it done. Many thx...Txbkr (new guy).
Kenne Bell kit hands down.

We've done numerous of them on the S197s.

Our most recent one went 12.02@ 118.9MPH with the 4inch pulley, which is 7-8PSI peak.

I will say this, the whipple on the 05+ does have a very clean install.

But over all the KBs run cooler discharge temps. And thus make more power and will last you longer in terms of power out put.

Another alternative is a ProCharger. Makes good power also. If your interested in a kit let me know :)

Casey39er
10-04-07, 12:57 PM
+1 on the Whipple and Performance Solutions Racing. Devin and Shane did a great job on the install and tune.

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Viper_ed
10-04-07, 01:38 PM
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choooo chooo choooo



:judge::+1::perfect10:


I'm with you Eades! Now that I have a Turbo car I can actually drive, I'll never do any other power adder again!

6Jeff6
10-04-07, 03:03 PM
Kenne Bell kit hands down.

We've done numerous of them on the S197s.

Our most recent one went 12.02@ 118.9MPH with the 4inch pulley, which is 7-8PSI peak.

I will say this, the whipple on the 05+ does have a very clean install.

But over all the KBs run cooler discharge temps. And thus make more power and will last you longer in terms of power out put.

Another alternative is a ProCharger. Makes good power also. If your interested in a kit let me know :)



+1:pepper: to the KB
Fun factor is a 10!!!:woot2:


Jeff

BurnTire
10-04-07, 09:03 PM
I'm with you Eades! Now that I have a Turbo car I can actually drive, I'll never do any other power adder again!

Your still a belt lover:biglaugh:

Viper_ed
10-05-07, 06:37 AM
Your still a belt lover:biglaugh:
Only if it involves spanking some Little Hottie on the Ass with it! :spank:

EXTRADUTY77
10-10-07, 11:38 AM
What no love for Vortech on here.....

BurnTire
10-10-07, 11:47 AM
What no love for Vortech on here.....

We have a bunch of those ricer turbo lovers around here:biglaugh:

Boss281
10-10-07, 11:52 AM
Hmmm, I guess I'm a bit old school. I've done the bolt ons, added a mild cam, a tune, and hoping for mid 12s in a few weeks. I'll save over the winter for ported heads, get another tune, and see what I got in the spring. A buddy of mine has a NA S197 and if it's cool this Friday he's going to try for 11s. I'm not sure but he may be the first if he pulls it off.

There's instant gratification with a S/C or turbo, but something about doing adding parts-->dyno-->racetrack test and tune-->repeat that appeals to me...

John

EXTRADUTY77
10-10-07, 11:53 AM
I hope your joking about the turbo because Vortech is a Gear driven, centrifugal supercharger....................
We have a bunch of those ricer turbo lovers around here:biglaugh:

BurnTire
10-10-07, 12:28 PM
I hope your joking about the turbo because Vortech is a Gear driven, centrifugal supercharger....................

LOL that wasn't directed at the vortech. Yes I had a vortech before and know it has a belt.

It was directed at the lack of blower love due to all the turbo worshipers.

4Jenna
10-10-07, 12:53 PM
Hmmm, I guess I'm a bit old school. I've done the bolt ons, added a mild cam, a tune, and hoping for mid 12s in a few weeks. I'll save over the winter for ported heads, get another tune, and see what I got in the spring. A buddy of mine has a NA S197 and if it's cool this Friday he's going to try for 11s. I'm not sure but he may be the first if he pulls it off.

There's instant gratification with a S/C or turbo, but something about doing adding parts-->dyno-->racetrack test and tune-->repeat that appeals to me...

John


Do all that and a S/C or Turbo

4Jenna
10-10-07, 12:57 PM
LOL that wasn't directed at the vortech. Yes I had a vortech before and know it has a belt.

It was directed at the lack of blower love due to all the turbo worshipers.


I ran a Vortech for 6 yrs....then swapped
I cant belive I waited so long...no worshipers just hard facts.

Free power is good power, and the OODLES of TQ and no belt slip is nice also. (yes i said oodles haha)

I have no 1st hand with Roots blowers but I will tell you I dont miss my Vortech one lil bit.

EXTRADUTY77
10-10-07, 01:22 PM
Man i haven't even drove my car yet and already getting kicked in the nuts . I have 2 more weeks and ill be home to drive my ride with all the new goodies. And i have OODLES of hp to come 550 is just to break in the new engine. still have another 10 psi to go yet...
I ran a Vortech for 6 yrs....then swapped
I cant belive I waited so long...no worshipers just hard facts.

Free power is good power, and the OODLES of TQ and no belt slip is nice also. (yes i said oodles haha)

I have no 1st hand with Roots blowers but I will tell you I dont miss my Vortech one lil bit.

4Jenna
10-10-07, 01:29 PM
Who kicked you in the nuts, your car sounds sweet?

I just gave my own opins on 1st hand exp.

BurnTire
10-10-07, 01:32 PM
Oodles of power from my twin screw. LOL

And it looks sexy!

4Jenna
10-10-07, 01:34 PM
I think you guys mean oodles of boost

I'm still in the single digit psi.

Boss281
10-10-07, 01:35 PM
Do all that and a S/C or Turbo

Eventually. I'm in no hurry...

John

BurnTire
10-10-07, 01:36 PM
Man i haven't even drove my car yet and already getting kicked in the nuts . I have 2 more weeks and ill be home to drive my ride with all the new goodies. And i have OODLES of hp to come 550 is just to break in the new engine. still have another 10 psi to go yet...

LOL. You car sounds bad ass. Don't let these sensitive turbo people get under your skin. LOL

BurnTire
10-10-07, 01:43 PM
Chris you seem a little sensitive today. Are you now using this?
http://a1468.g.akamai.net/f/1468/580/1d/pics.Drugstore.com/prodimg/27628/300.jpg

4Jenna
10-10-07, 01:43 PM
His car def is!!!!:twothumbsup:

txbkr
11-19-07, 06:32 PM
Out of curiosity, how much would heads & a cam cost and what would be the HP gain. The cam would be a mild one.

LSlayer
11-20-07, 06:44 PM
A good set of heads and cams may net you bout 40-50 rwhp and run around 2800-3000 without a core charge(I think). Those prices are based off what livernois charges for ported 3V heads. FRPP 3V heads are somewhere around 1300 and no core charge. Not sure how much they will net you on a N/A setup but the showed a 30~ rwhp gain on a centrifugal setup.

txbkr
11-28-07, 10:02 PM
OK, OK OK. So how 'bout this, at the present time I don't have all the $$ for Whipple, (family emergency) but I want more power NOW!!! So, I'll take the 'stang to PSR get a cam and a bad ass tune first. Then, in a few months, I'll have the $$$ for the Whipple and get it too. Whaddaya think!? That on top of a full exhaust system should yield me....what 450??? A wise decision for a daily driver?