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FSTFTSH
03-10-06, 12:29 AM
Hello Fellow Terminators!

Well I must say, this shot is badass! The shop size is incredible! The customer service is great, and they let you hang out while they are working on it! This place has everything I ask for in a shop! I arrived at 12:30 and the work began......

Here we have the car pulled in ready to start wrenching. Notice the size of the shop in the background.....
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6722591768.jpg

Here is Devin beginning to unbolt the four plugs on the driver's side.
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6722564153.jpg

NGK TR6's Here we come!
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6722575482.jpg

The plugs had a bit of detenation. Due to running the stock plugs with my current 2.8 Pulley, Intake, X Pipe, Catback.

http://x10.putfile.com/3/6723004382.jpg

FSTFTSH
03-10-06, 12:30 AM
Preparing the TR6's with anti-seize.

http://x10.putfile.com/3/6723041650.jpg

Drivers side done!
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6723280949.jpg

FSTFTSH
03-10-06, 12:31 AM
Passenger Side Completed!
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Plug change went very smooth and quick! Off to the Autometer Dual Gauge Pod Install (Boost/ Air Fuel)! By the way everything was zip-tied and plastic tube covered.
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6723013632.jpg

Preparing the Interior for the Gauge Pod!
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FSTFTSH
03-10-06, 12:32 AM
Sliding the Gauge Pod Into the A Pillar.

http://x10.putfile.com/3/6723065435.jpg

Gauge Pod Completed! (Picture Was Taken Inside My Garage! Everything works perfect!
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Off to the V1 Install. Only pic I got was the completion! We ran the cord from here, behind the Personel Mirror, down the A-Pillar, to the power source near the Shifter! Everything was done very professionally!
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6723300933.jpg

Made it home safe and sound!
http://x10.putfile.com/3/6722555052.jpg


I must also say that the TR6's were gapped at .035 and are running very smoothly! My idle is great! I will have them checked once I return with my IRS Brace! Stay Tuned!

Here is my conclusion of the shop!

After my first visit and install I must say I am a lifeling customer! Devin and Dan know these cars very well! They were very courteous and professional. The price was very very reasonable for the time it took for this install. They dont just hack there way through stuff. When Devin wired my Air/Fuel he re-routed it three times. Lifting my car up twice and adjusting the wiring, just to my liking. Always telling me how/why this will improve better than other ways. I felt very comfortable with them wrenching on my new car. I will be returning once I get my IRS Brace and Dyno Installed. I must also note that Devin took a new predator and Logged some of my fuel patterns! I guess they dont marry the VIN if you just log???? Anyways, I would like to let you guys know this shop is the place to go for optimal quality, professional work.

Best Wishes to Dan and his new shop!

Sincerely,

Zach Buzianis

50 BMG
03-10-06, 08:27 AM
looks good man!

Lucafu1
03-12-06, 02:43 AM
sweet, but i wouldnt of used anti-seize on our heads. thats shop looks sweet!

Dan
03-14-06, 03:50 PM
sweet, but i wouldnt of used anti-seize on our heads. thats shop looks sweet!


what ???????? that is the only way you should install steel plugs in to aluminum heads if not then it will sieze the two metals together I have seen this 1382738471 times when you pull the sparkplug out and the threads come with it. then a simple plug change is a head job.



anti sieze is not loc tite it keeps the plug from siezing in the hole. hey but what do i know I only do this for a living my whole life

Lucafu1
03-14-06, 04:13 PM
i know exactly what anti-seize is and what different metals do when they come in contact with each other. you have to know these things working on aircraft.
with 4 thread heads you really dont need it. and as many times cobra owners change their plugs its not gonna seize. i dont wanna have problems like the L owners with plugs popping out under boost.

if you plan on going 100k between plug changes then yeah throw some a/s compound on there.

Dan
03-15-06, 08:48 AM
maybe i should be more clear. ford had some weak castings on some of there parts like the V10 (that has no boost) all v 10s loose a head due to a bad casting. and what happends is people leave the plugs in there way too long and they sieze to the head then when removing them the pull the threads as well then they reinstall the new plug and the truck/ car runs for about 3 weeks then pops a plug out..



9 years working at ford I have seen it. anti sieze is the only way plugs should be installed on any motor

Dan
03-15-06, 08:58 AM
Ok lets hear your end! What is it going to hurt????????? once again I dont want people getting bad advise so lets hear all the pros and cons of it. and please no copy and past text from someone elses forum.


when using anti sieze in small amounts will assure that the plugs will not sieze to the head with in the 20-30k miles. also do you know the amount of heat that is down in that hole ????? it is tremendous


when NOT using anti sieze you are asking to take a gamble and personaly I dont want to take that kind of risk.

phenix
03-15-06, 10:35 AM
Awesome zach!

I couldnt agree more though with you on performance solutions. Dan and Devan know there shit and i honestly feel like they car about my car and arent just going to hack away like 99.9% of the other shops here in az.

Cant wait until my car comes back to me with that 5spd. Today!

-Aaron

evil04cobra
03-15-06, 10:51 AM
The benefits of anti-seize are really two fold, and especially beneficial to an application with four threads in the cylinder heads. Primarily, it is the function of anti-seize to prevent gavanic corrosion or galvanic galling of disimilar metallic components held in close tolerance. However, anti-seize has been proven to work very well as a heat-sink compound where the heat from the plug can be more easily transferred to the cylinder head and cooling passages. Since 4 thread heads do provide limited heat transfer, increasing the capabilty of heat transfer in this application is beneficial to say the least.

Cheers,

PARKER

Lucafu1
03-15-06, 01:10 PM
ok a/s owns all =)

i dont use it cause my plugs come out ever 1k miles. but i do know the benifits to it, and stopping corrosion is the best one.

Lucafu1
03-15-06, 01:35 PM
oh yeah i just thought i would add this. on the engines i used to work on we would have to use a/s on the igniter plugs but no one ever did. and every 50 acft hours they would have to be pulled. no one ever had a problem. and those suckers get hot. on average they run at say 800*C (not *F). if you do the genaric conversion it would be to double it and add 32 you get over 1600*F, now thats some heat.

=)

evil04cobra
03-15-06, 02:19 PM
That is hot, but at 14.7:1 A/F ratio, combustion chamber temperatures hover around 2500 degrees Farenheit.

Lucafu1
03-15-06, 04:50 PM
That is hot, but at 14.7:1 A/F ratio, combustion chamber temperatures hover around 2500 degrees Farenheit.

how is this possible?

aluminum has a melting point of 1217*F
mild steel 2462-2786*F
4130 steel (our rods are made of this i believe) 2550*F

if your statement is correct then we are in a world of hurt.
i could be missing something because i dont know a whole lot on engine temps, combustion, and anti sieze.

Luis

Lucafu1
03-15-06, 04:56 PM
i just did some google research and it said it can even reach 1500*C

yeah thats hot. but i guess only for short periods of time and it is controlled. crazy how close they bring it to the material tolerances.

so now i wonder what is the average cylinder temps of an engine?

because what i was talking about on the other one is a constant and only gets hotter (another 200*c hotter).:)

anyways thanks for the info evil

evil04cobra
03-15-06, 05:17 PM
Kind of like the example of asking what the combustion point of a paper dixie cup is. It is easily achieved with a bic lighter, until you fill the cup with water.

Let's examine the process and dynamics involved from the moment that we open the intake valve. With the piston moving down the bore, cylinder volume increases, cylinder pressure decreases, allowing the higher pressure in the intake tract to push the fuel/air mixture into the cylinder. As the piston starts back up and the intake valve closes, cylinder volume decreases and cylinder pressure increases.

When the crankshaft reaches about 30 degrees before top dead center, the spark jumps the gap between the plug electrodes. The purpose of the spark is to raise the temperature of a very small portion of the fuel/air mixture above its ignition temperature. This is the point where true combustion begins. As the exothermic reaction starts, the mixture directly adjacent to the spark plug is also ignited and the process rapidly progresses out from the plug in a roughly spherical shape.

At about 20 degrees BTDC, the rate of heat release causes the cylinder pressure to rise above the compression line which is what the cylinder pressure would be at a given piston position without ignition. Notice that it has taken 10 degrees of crank rotation to generate this pressure level. This is known as the ignition-delay period.

The rate of pressure rise is a function of the rate of energy release vs. the rate of change of combustion space or cylinder volume. The rate of energy release is directly related to the flame propagation rate and the area of reacting surface. Flame speed is dependant on fuel/air ratio, charge density, charge homogeny, fuel characteristics, charge turbulence and reaction with inert gasses and the metal combustion chamber, cylinder walls, and piston.

In technical terms, the pressure rise is referred to as flagregation. No two combustion cycles progress at the same rate or at a uniform rate. Some start slow and end slow. Some start slow and end fast. Some start fast and slow down. Generally, only the ones that end too fast will lead to knocking as the rapid pressure rise may happen too soon with the cylinder volume still decreasing or not increasing fast enough. Usually, not all cylinders will knock at the same time or on the same cycle because of this.


By the time the crank is at about 5 degrees ATDC, the cylinder pressure is about double that of the compression line. From this point to roughly 15 degrees ATDC the combustion process is very rapid due to the increasing area of inflamed mixture and the high rate of energy release. The peak cylinder pressure (PCP) occurs between 10 and 20 degrees ATDC on most engines and the combustion process is complete by 20 to 25 degrees ATDC. The peak temperature within the combustion gasses will reach somewhere around 5000 degrees Fahrenheit and pressures may be anywhere from 300 to 2500psi depending on the engine.

Obviously it is very important to have the crankpin at an advantageous angle before maximum cylinder pressure is achieved in order that maximum force is applied through the piston and rod to the crankshaft. If the mixture was ignited too early, much of the force would simply try to compress the piston, rod and crank without performing any useful work. In a worst case scenario, the cylinder pressure would be rapidly rising before the piston reached TDC which would have the cylinder volume decreasing at the same time. This will often result in knock or detonation which is counterproductive to maximum power and engine life.

Detonation or knock is defined as a form of combustion which involves too rapid a rate of energy release producing excessive temperatures and pressures, adversely affecting the conversion of chemical energy into useful work.

Lucafu1
03-15-06, 05:22 PM
did you right that?
if so you smart. if not your smart for finding it or all ready knowing about it. i hope one day i can be that smart.

and if you think im being a smart ass............im not.:)

evil04cobra
03-15-06, 05:34 PM
I helped write it. It was put together for one of the AETC conferences in (http://www.in) Colorado Springs with an engineering professor at Mississippi State University. The AETC conferences are in Orlando now, so at least it's not as cold. The paper has been plagarized and borrowed over the years, but that's OK, I can always find a copy by googling "flagregation". :???:

Here's a link to the AETC www.aetconline.com (http://www.aetconline.com)

Lucafu1
03-15-06, 05:40 PM
thanks for the link. im going to school to be a mechanical engineer. i just started so nothing hard yet. i have been told its a hard degree and i dont doubt it one bit. thanks again

evil04cobra
03-15-06, 05:41 PM
Good luck, it will be worth the effort.

Cheers,

PARKER

Dan
03-16-06, 08:43 AM
so in short anti sieze should be used! plain and simple

Screamn03
03-19-06, 02:24 PM
Kickass shop!, nice and roomy.

5.4 Speedster
03-19-06, 03:56 PM
I would like to add a comment about Performance Solutions. I have used almost every mustang shop in AZ. They all suck. I thought I was going to have to go to texas to get good work done on my ride. You know what? Not anymore, The level of service, attention to detail, as well as knowing the owner has quite a few badass cars made the choice simple for me. Performance Solutions is the only way to go in AZ.



I can't wait to see those heads!!! Dan can you do some before and after shots?? If not no prob. I can't wait to get this motor together.

Carry on!

The Nunn's
03-19-06, 04:45 PM
so in short anti sieze should be used! plain and simple

DUH!!!!!! any rocket sciencetist knows that :mrgreen:

Radeon
03-21-06, 11:01 AM
I would like to add a comment about Performance Solutions. I have used almost every mustang shop in AZ. They all suck. I thought I was going to have to go to texas to get good work done on my ride. You know what? Not anymore, The level of service, attention to detail, as well as knowing the owner has quite a few badass cars made the choice simple for me. Performance Solutions is the only way to go in AZ.



I can't wait to see those heads!!! Dan can you do some before and after shots?? If not no prob. I can't wait to get this motor together.

Carry on!

I think Im the only one that hasnt been there yet...lol

MISN3RD
03-21-06, 11:44 AM
im with 5.4 speedster on this one ... performance solutions is the only shop in az that will touch my 04 cobra & 88 notch!