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    E85 tuning

    anybody here ever look in to tuning with E85....

    if you are tuned on E85 what are the power gains ??

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    Quote Originally Posted by az2k1 View Post
    anybody here ever look in to tuning with E85....

    if you are tuned on E85 what are the power gains ??
    I will going to E85 next year. On forced induction motors it seems like a 10% gain can be expected due to the much cooler burn and reduced cylinder temps. Keep in mind you will need fuel system upgrades as it will take about 30 to 40% more fuel at WOT.
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    Why so much?

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69CreamPuFF View Post
    Why so much?
    It has a lower stoich rating so you have to inject much more for a correct burn.

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    Very nice. I learned something new. Thanks Burntire! And thanks IMSHAKN that answered alot of questions!

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    Quote Originally Posted by BurnTire View Post
    I will going to E85 next year. On forced induction motors it seems like a 10% gain can be expected due to the much cooler burn and reduced cylinder temps. Keep in mind you will need fuel system upgrades as it will take about 30 to 40% more fuel at WOT.
    o cool ....a friend of my is going to come down from New Mexico to tune some car with E-85 . He wanted me to see if there were 3 on more guys that wanted to get there cars tune . His name is Dave @ Hellion motorsports and yes he is a great tuner thats who tune my car ...

    03 motor w/stage 3 cams ,JLT c.a.i,BBK o/r X pipe,Tri-Ax,C.C U/L flywheel ,
    Competition Clutch, I.R.S 31 spline w/4:10's,SCT tuner,Eibach sport line,tokico, .....

    NEW set up
    S/C 17psi 462HP 505TQ....

    11.76@116 1.63 60ft.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 69CreamPuFF View Post
    Why so much?
    Very simple. E85 has less BTU per unit than regular fuel.
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    Quote Originally Posted by az2k1 View Post
    o cool ....a friend of my is going to come down from New Mexico to tune some car with E-85 . He wanted me to see if there were 3 on more guys that wanted to get there cars tune . His name is Dave @ Hellion motorsports and yes he is a great tuner thats who tune my car ...
    Just make sure you have the fuel system to support the additional fuel needed. That could mean bigger injectors, fuel lines and pumps.
    E85 is nice, but pump supplies are limited and e85 can be very inconsistently mixed at the pump, it is very hygroscopic(water loving) and the ratios do change from winter to summer.

    I really wouldn't bother using it with a N/A engine unless it was a specifically built with at least higher compression to take advantage of the higher octane to regain some fuel efficiency lost by going to e85.
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    Ok Boys and Girls, today we will learn a new word and it's true meaning...

    hygroscopic.
    (1) Possessing a marked ability to accelerate the condensation of water vapor; applied to condensation nuclei composed of salts that yield aqueous solutions of a very low equilibrium vapor pressure compared with that of pure water at the same temperature. (2) Pertaining to a substance whose physical characteristics are appreciably altered by effects of water vapor. (3) Pertaining to water absorbed by dry soil minerals from the atmosphere; the amounts depend on the physicochemical character of the surfaces, and increase with rising relative humidity.

    That was for everyone except WB, as he was in the Navy and knows a lot about water.

    Sorry Bill, but I'm up late too and could not resist, lol

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